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'll cover that with our headliners. senators dick durbin and lindsey graham. plus our powerhouse roundtable. matthew dowd, joe klein, ruth marcus, david sanger of "the new york times" and peggy noonan of "the wall street journal." >>> then ben affleck. >> you saw your parents killed? >> with war breaking out in congo, he's here live on what can be done to stop the fighting. >>> and -- >> i'm jonathan karl, i'm going to show you how this clipper will bring bipartisanship to washington. >>> hello, again. you just saw one small step for bipartisanship, is there more to come in washington? congress is back to work this week. top priority, a deal to block those automatic spending cuts and tax increases now set for january 1st, and some smart money is starting to bet that the president and congress will find a way to avoid that fiscal cliff. stocks up this week in anticipation of a deal with the dow clocking five straight of gains. and black friday consumer spending was down as well. now let's bring in t number one senator dick durbin and top republican lindsey graham. senator, welcome in. senato
and get the job done. \[inaudible question] >> dick durbin says as talks continue on of this booklet democrats must be open to painful topics, including medicare and medicaid. he was at the center for american progress for about 45 minutes. >> good morning, everyone. thank you for being here. i am the president of the center for american progress. we are thrilled to have senator durbin here today to talk about his views on the fiscal cliff. as we engage in this debate, i wanted to lay out a few principles that are critical as washington becomes obsessed with this set of issues. the elections have consequences. at c.a.p., we have argued that the issues that are really framing the fiscal debate and fiscal cliff were ones that were litigated in the election context. the president did not have one set of conversations before november and a second set now. there was a thread going through the debate that the country was having and that thread was around having a balanced plan to address america's fiscal challenges. there are serious fiscal challenges that we do need long term -- deficit r
back. that was senator dick durbin of illinois who voted for the simpson/bowles plan and today he served on the commission and voted for the proposal. i'll say it again and again even though it includes significant entitlement cuts and he as a democrat doesn't like that. the upcoming december 31st deadline, the so-called cliff, anything from that fiscal cliff to that fiscal slope. liberals are saying to that austerity bomb that progressive people don't like at all. former senator alan simpson proposed a plan to get the united states financial house in order that some say was our best shot at solvency. and avoiding the mess that awaits us come december 31st. senator simpson, it's always an honor. politics, i know you understand the irony of politics, it makes strange bedfellows. i want to try something by you. the president wants a deal. the president would obviously like to include something on revenues. the conservatives may not want to go along with that. but if it will include something on revenues. the best push is coming from people i don't normally side with like tom donohue
, there's also hand wringing over what senator dick durbin said in the speech at the center for american progress and we have this, dick durbin, not what he said but didn't say and preparled remarks he said progressives should be willing to talk about ways to ensure the long-term viability of the social security, medicare and medicaid but those conversations should not be a part of a plan to avert the fiscal cliff and prepared remarks. he didn't say that in the speech. you have a lot of republicans on the -- excuse me, democrats on the left greatly concerned about what will happen to medicare and quite honestly not ready to put that conversation on the table. >> well, i think that's correct. you're speaking about a certain percentage of democrats. i would include in that list bernie sander who is sent out an e-mail blast today saying medicare, medicare and social security should all be off the table. now, in reality, i think social security really can be and should be off the table because it's not a contributor to the federal deficit. it's well funded for decades ahead but if you look a
satellite corp. 2012] >> also live in washington this morning, coming up at 11:30 a.m., dick durbin will be speaking about the so-called fiscal cliff and that is a reduction -- and deficit reduction. we will have that live here on c-span at 11:30 a.m. eastern. over at the white house today, president obama is meeting with small business owners. at 12:30, jay carney will hold a press briefing and take questions from reporters. this afternoon, the president and vice president will meet with the mexican president who takes office december 1. the press briefing today at 12:30. on capitol hill, the house of representatives returns today at 2:00 p.m. eastern on their agenda this afternoon five bills including a measure requiring the department of a homeland security to report on security. later this week, a student visa program. also this week, the democratic leadership elections. that will be coming up later this week. live coverage of the house at 2:00 p.m. eastern. a number of senators have been meeting with u.n. ambassador susan rice in the wake of her comments following the attack on
principles? i was left with the impression that they would. illinois democratic senator dick durbin spoke today at the liberal center for american progress where he said this about the possibility of going off the cliff which fears of this show know is is really more of a curb than a cliff. >> some have called let's go over the cliff and watch what happens. we know if we're not careful, it will in fact stop economic growth and hurt everyone through every income category, particularly those most vulnerable. >> what he did not say is he must not go off the cliff. because the cliff is president obama's and the congressional democrats leverage over republicans. if we do go off the cliff or the curb on january 1st, a republican nightmare will occur. all income tax rates will go up and defense spending will be cut by 600 billion. other spending, some of it dear to republicans, will also be cut by another 600 billion. the fiscal cliff is much scarier to republicans than it is to democrats. so, the president and his allies must continue to make republicans believe they are willing to go off cliff
the road to tout his tax plan. i will speak with lobbyist grover norquist and senator dick durbin about what hangs in the balance next. >>> a small town governor stood up to violence and vowed to keep fighting, but now her dead body has been found. her story when "ac 360" continues. >>> if you department get enough of campaign 2012, stay tuned. we learn that the president will push plan to raise taxes on income above a quarter million dollars a year. he'll be speaking friday at a factory in pennsylvania. some republicans are hinting to limiting deductions even if it means breaking the pledge that the lobbyist grover norquist has been lobbying against for years. joining us now to talk about it all, grover norquist, president of americans for tax reform. grover, thanks very much for coming in. >> good to be with you. >> the trend we're seeing now from members of congress questioning or pushing back on the pledge. we've seen it before to a certain degree, but we're seeing a lot more of it i sense right now. there's a sense this movement is gaining some steam. is this just more of the same,
. >> we need to put evening on the table. >> but dick durbin expressed concerns if raising edge for medicare. >> there will be gaps in coverage. >> another chairman max baucus told the newspaper in his home state the wish list for the debt talk includes more money. tax credit for wind farms in montana, protecting rural hospitals and ending the estate tax. others are going further urging the president to allow the nation to dive off the cliff with the automatic touch to pentagon -- cuts to pentagon ib stead of to domestic programs. >> on the question of leadership, the white house aides say the past weekend, the president called both senator reid and speaker boehner to get things going. there is a talk of a immediating at the white house later this week. >> ed henry live on the north lawn. thank you. stocks were mixed. the dow lost 42. nasdaq gained ten. they are still trying to find a deal for bail-out money for greece. they failed to reach an agreement twice in two weeks. mary schapiro is leaving next month. she will be replaced by the sikh commission member elite walter. you m
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to in 2011. majority leader harry reid has ruled that out this time and the number two democrat durbin repeated reid's position on sunday. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation and we can do things, and i believe we should, now, smaller things, played out over the longer term that gives it solvency. medicare is another story. >> there's still staff level discussions going on. and, by the way, as much as washington gets caught up in the conventional wisdom of what senators are saying, remember right now the senate are 100 ehechted pundits. the game is between the white house and house republicans for now. at some point the action could move to the senate. but right now it's about the house. it's a possibility at some point folks on capitol hill expect the white house to call another meeting of boehner, mcconnell, reid and pelosi along with the president. at some point this week. though nothing is scheduled. the first major appointment that the president makes will probably come in the next week to ten days. just two candidat
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dick durbin was over at the senator for american progress yesterday and he made it very, very clear that when the word entitlement reform is used or the phrase, there's one thing it should not include. here's senator durbin. >> i think we should take social security off the table for the current fiscal cliff and deficit discussion but be very honest about what we're going to achieve in the near term. i think we should create the equivalent of a simpson bowles commission for social security and give them eight months to a year, a directive to come up with a plan to buy 75 years of solvency for social security. >> bill: social security is really a different issue isn't it? >> absolutely. it is. i would agree with senator durbin absolutely. i'll give you a reform in medicare i think democrats would support. and that is looking at prescription drugs. and making it more competitive. >> bill: amen. >> or really crackening down on the fraud that takes place through the medical devices which is not with individuals c
dick durbin says medicare and medicaid are fair game in deficit negotiations, but insist social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt, not a penny. it's a separate funded operation, and we can do things, and i believe we should now, smaller things, played out over the long term that gives it solvency. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do nothing. so those who say don't touch it, don't change it are ignoring the obvious. >> despite showing willingness for reform -- >> can we talk about that for a second? >> i don't want to repeat what you said. >> it's bull hockey. >> that's not what you said. >> this whole thing has been a complete farce for years. there's no trust fund. they raided that a long time ago. but the bigger point, i will because you know what? my heart has grown like the grinch's since thanksgiving. i have so much to be thankful for. >> it's been growing ever since election day, basically. >> so i'm going to be kind. first of all, senator durbin deserves respect on this front because he
, those facts make forging a deal structurally very difficult. on monday senator dick durbin admitted what we've been hearing behind the scenes. very little has been accomplished on negotiations on the staff level. >> now for ten days not much has happened. there's been a big thanksgiving break. a lot of turkey and stuffing. but now let's get back to business. >> although the white house said they remain optimistic, there doesn't appear to be a plan for another leadership meeting until progress is made between the white house team negotiating a deal that's led by secretary geithner but the house republicans, specifically in boehner's shop. in the meantime, to create the appearance of momentum behind his plan, the president is stepping up his schedule, will hold a meeting today. the white house, 15 small business owners from the retail health care transportation and construction sectors. tomorrow ceos for the second time in two weeks go into the white house. middle class americans from around the country who the white house says will suffer if no deal is done also come to the white house we
durbin, democratic senator from illinois. he is very close to the president. he is introduced him at every major political event since he came into public office from illinois. he will have a press conference today. he is going to make a speech that says medicare and medicaid should be looked at but not part of the fiscal cliff negotiations. so if that is the case you change that at all right now? >> let me say this. i know that we have people out posturing and again we have all kind of folks that just want to sweep this under the rug and let the problem get even bigger. the fact is the two most important people are the president and speaker boehner. both of them in the beginning of this have shown a degree of flexibility. what we need to do, people like myself offer concrete solutions to solve this problem. when they get in their meeting they need to have these at their disposal and we as a country again need to go ahead and deal with this issue now. i know that senator durbin actually has shown some strength for what it's worth, i don't know what he will do today in his press co
back. eleanor, i'll start with you. let's listen to dick durbin and lindsey graham today. >> okay. >> there's a bipartisan bill passed by the senate that will spare 98% of taxpayers across america from any income tax raises and 90% of the businesses. it's a bipartisan bill the house should pass to make sure we go forward with these negotiations without this specter of tax increases for working families. >> i'm willing to generate revenue as it's fair to ask my party to put revenue on the table below historic averages. i will cap deducks. if you cap deductions around the 30, $40,000 end, you can raise a trillion dollars in revenue and the people who lose their deductions are the upper end americans. >> eleanor, it starts out one way and then it doesn't seem like there's a lot of room. how do you read that? >> i treed as thanksgiving rhetoric. i think the democrats are ready to deal with entitlement reform. zack put that on the table a year and a half ago when they came close to reaching a deal and the republicans are held up on the notion of tax rates. if you listen early to what s
to congratulate you for voting for simpson/bowles. you and people like dick durbin, i have tremendous respect for you to stick your neck out and say something a lot of politicians won't do. it isn't perfect, but it's where we have to go. thank you so much for coming on. senator tom coburn, who, again, my kids seem to love for some reason. thank you very much for coming on, and joe klein of "time" magazine. >>> up next, can president obama turn his voters into fighters? this will be fascinating. i found out how great the ground game was in florida. can he put this ground game to work to fight the fiscal cliff? the "hardball" story on that one is coming up right now, the place for politics. ts and hasbro trust duracell to power their donated toys? duralock power preserve. it locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >>> "the new york times" has just listed "jack kennedy: elusive hero," my book, on the best-seller list. it's a big honor for the paperback edition. it's a great book of american heroism, the story of jack kennedy, who he w
democrats like rockefeller, dick durbin and others saying hey, we better not touch entitlements. mr. president, you better watch yourself because we won the election. let's focus on those taxes on the rich. let's deal with entitlement down the line. that scares me. that is unrealistic. it goes against what we heard the president of the united states say. >> dana: when it comes to the math, do the math, they have a good opportunity in front of them. >> we heard senator reid said when asked he couldn't name any of the cut the democrats are willing to offer in the fiscal cliff negotiations. he said, "we need to get credit for cuts previously made." this is today. the cut previously made. i'm scratching my head to figure out what cuts the democrats made prior that they want credit for. if they did make credit cuts why did we run up four more years in a row? start fresh right now. talk about cuts and then talk about how are we going to raise revenues. >> eric: what would -- >> dana: what would harry reid mean by that? get credit on cuts they made. on what? >> bob: that is a $60,000 quest
's a reason why dick durbin, who was his senate partner from oil know, is saying which they went to 100% tax rate on million favors and people making above 250,000, it still isn't going to close the gap that exists. lfr maybe the the pie larger. >> let's be very clear, though, the president has already signed into law more cuts than were in the simpson-bowles proposal, he's proposed additional cuts in the 2013 budget he's proposed. to say he hasn't put cuts on the table is completely disingeneralsous. >> karen is making president obama out to be a tight fisted spending cutter. you followed the fiscal beat? >> do you regard president obama as a tight-fisted spending cutter? >> it's somewhere in between. he did sign a cap that would save a trillion dollars over the next would you mean of years. but thens other side of it is that we need about $4.9 trillion of savings over the next year to stabilize grashio, or cutting spending to medicare crieders. you actually do need to take on and storm reforming or we're going to be facing a down grade of all three rate being agencies. >> in brief, this st
times, but he has not placed those on the table. we have leading senators like senator durbin who has the courage to deal with these issues. he was on the simpson-bowles committee who said that we can't deal with those now in the dealing with the fiscal cliff, we need to put that off into the future. my experience is what you put off to the future never happen here. >> i hope we can get a deal. >>> me too. >>. >>> great to see both of you. john let me start with you. cornyn is pessimistic, but the markets are up today, despite the glum faces we have seen. cornyn has said he's pessimis c pessimistic, is he willing realistic or do you think we're going to get a deal? >> i think he's being a strategic scrooge. he's saying we need a balanced plan, but the president's not dealing with entitlealment reform and cuts. to give a balanced plan, republicans have to cut taxes. >> he said i put revenue on the table. but he wouldn't talk about the rates. >> also when asked about these specific entitlement reforms, he didn't talk about those either. we need to see some substance behind that. >> did
, with the promise of cuts to programs like medicare later. on tuesday, senator dick durbin flatly declared entitlement reform should not be on the table. yesterday, top white house officials also met with leading liberal groups, from labor unions to moveon.org. with one attendee telling the "washington post" they expect the taxes to go up on the wealthy and to protect medicare and medicaid benefits. they feel confident they don't have to compromise. pressed today on whether the spending cuts are kicked down the road, white house spokesman jay carney was noncommittal. >> you are not having any spending cuts now. you want to do spending cuts next year; is that a fact? >> no. it's not a fact. these are all parts of aspects of the conversations that are ongoing. >> some republicans are pushing boehner an other leaders to accept an extension of the middle class cuts to avoid the white house blaming them for crash over taxes on the rich. >> everybody is waiting for schedule to go up. unless we fix that paradoxically. president obama becomes defender of the bush tax cuts for 98% of the people. he
because when he sat there with dick durbin -- he said, grover, i am not really for tax increases. i and just putting tax increases on the table here and durbin is giving me all of these spending cuts and i have not agreed to anything. i just talk about tax increases. i said -- senator, do you think it is possible durbin goes back to the democratic caucus and says i am putting these imaginary spending cuts on the table -- and he is giving me the tax increases. tom coburn from oklahoma said he would never be that dishonest. senator, i think he is and i think you are not. and i think he takes you seriously and i think you should not take him seriously. but again, they spend more than a year putting a the simpson- bowles commission, which, if you have seen a, a slide presentation, an outline, it is in haiku, the only numbers and the page numbers. it is a series of interesting things. there are specific about the tax burden going up by -- $5 trillion in tax increases. as ryan reads this as a trillion dollars in tax increases from eliminating or reducing deductions and exemptions and so o
the government to work. senators durbin and coburn, both sides, were working on a deal. have you patty murray now empowered by having led the democrats to success in their senate re-election campaign. and she is the incoming head of the budget committee. she is at the table. you've got a group of people on both sides who really want to make this work. and i think the speaker what he is doing as ken just said is sending some red meat, but i don't think anyone seriously thinks that the election mandate is to revisit health care. that is a done deal. >> let me revisit where we started the program this morning. the president believes that a second term agenda is about restoring some faith in the fact that government can work, and this is the first test of that. but then there is immigration reform, which he wants to get done. there's got to be some attention on energy. there's the issue of climate change. but how much of his time is going to be dominated by the necessity for america to figure out what its new strategy is in the middle east, beyond winding down our military forces? because we're neede
durbin has limited company among some of his fellow democrats. keeping them honest during the last budget showdown, both sides talked like this, but then they backed away. also, as we mentioned a moment ago, there are late new signs na nobody is quite ready to cut a deal. another round of white house talks between congressional leaders and president obama was promised but is yet to materialize. a senate democratic leadership aide told us that staff level meetings p are meant to lay the groundwork haven't been very productive. one senate republican leadership aide accuses democrats of leaking details in order to portray republicans negatively. the aide notes that the talks are continuing, which ifrts can be read as some sort of progress. whether that's real progress or washington progress remains to be seen. >>> a lot to talk about starting with tennessee republican senator bob corker. senator corker, thanks very much for joining us. let's talk about grover norquist. no new taxes pledge. you said earlier in your career, you told cbs morning news earlier today and i'm quoting now, you said
you for voting for simpson bowles. you and people like dick durbin, i have tremendous respect for you to stick your neck out and say something a lot of politicians won't do. it isn't perfect but it's where we have to go. thank you so much for coming on. senator tom coburn, who again my kids seem to love for some reason. thank you very much for coming on, and joe klein of "time" magazine. >>> up next, can president obama turn his voters into fighters? this will be fascinating. i found out how great the ground game was in florida. can he put this ground game to work to fight the fiscal cliff? the "hardball" story on that one is coming up right now, the place for politics. with the ability to improve roi through seo all by cob. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. i'm going b-i-g. [ male announcer ] good choice business pro. good choice. go national. go like a pro. >>> the noshlts has just listed jack kennedy elusive hero moon the best-seller list. it's
signs. here is democratic senator dick durbin today speaking about the possibility of a deal on the fiscal cliff. take a listen. >> pick up any of the hill newspapers and look for the full-page ads. basically saying to the left, keep your hands off the entitlements and to the right, keep your hands off of taxes. well, if both sides heed those warnings, nothing will happen. >> congressman, he's right, isn't he? >> of course he's right. and, you know, we have this new book about thomas jefferson and this new movie about abraham lincoln and that great robert carroll book about lyndon johnson. these were people whose greatness came from understanding that the art -- that compromise is the art of politics. that sometimes you have to get your hands dirty. you have to take things into your own hands in terms of negotiating, making deals, compromising things that you know have to be done for the greater good. the greater good is to put this country onto a path of stable financial security. this can be done, but we have to be willing to negotiate, to compromise, and to put aside the p
and durbin willing to do that and will nor liberal democrats come to the table with entitlement reform. we'll see if that is a bigger dynamic that changes this week. >> what is the danger i guess is one question because there are democrats like patty murray saying it isn't a cliff, it is a slope. >> the danger is a massive sudden drop in government spending and even if you hate government spending, spending does keep the economy going and when you cut that much spending all at once abruptly you create a shock to the economy and that is dangerous and there are economists that say it could send us into recession again. >> it is not going to happen immediately on january 1st is their point. >> the alternative perspective is if you believe in preserving entitlements, social security, an eventual deal, a real deal, how much different would it really look from what is on the table with the fiscal cliff? >> that's a good question. let me read to you what congressman peter difazoo told politico. if the republicans can't see their way to significant additional revenues target to the people who are
. the negotiations continue on the fiscal cliff, we look at how we got here. senator dick durbin will talk about efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff. starting at 11:00 a.m. eastern. tomorrow on washington journal, jack girard of the american petroleum institute talks about alternative energy efforts. and christina ellen discusses long-term unemployment benefits ending in january without congressional action. after that, bloomberg television reporter dominate chu about what investors are doing with their money. washington journal is live at 7:00 eastern here on c-span. now, reaction from senate republicans to the passage of the debt ceiling increase part of an august 2011 deficit reductn agreement. mitch mcconnell and other republicans. >> i know you are going to miss this, you just hate to see us go. we are going to miss you, too. obviously, the biggest concern is jobs and the economy. things have actually gotten worse since the president have to take -- has taken office and we need to move in a different direction. the american people do not believe that raising taxes and killing jobs is a dire
. i think we're done. >> after durbin speoke yesterda, if you're going to get a blueprint, he doesn't want entitlements be part of it for next year. >> it's the 1,000-point solution. maybe that will change their mind. durbin said no. norquist is saying no tax increase. what else is there? am i missing something? what am i missing? blankfe >> stallen made a lot of sense. mass murderer about you doesn't mean he didn't make sense. >> blankfein, kent, mayer, roberts of comcast. is there anything these guys can say to change their tune? to get people -- >> we're just past thanksgiving. let's give it a little time. things can change. we've seen lots of back and forth. everybody is establishing their negotiating position. there's still a negotiation to come in some way. i'll take the optimistic view. >> maybe that's where they are starting from. >> a reset button? >> we have yet to get in there and see whether in fact there can be the ability to knock heads around and really figure something out here from the executive, the chief executive, that being the president and the leaders of both
. >> dick durbin says when you're talking about entitlement reform or cuts in spending for medicare, medicaid for example, he says that's too complicated now. listen to what he said this morning. >> when it comes to medicare, we know that it's going to run out of money in 12 years. whatever changes we want to make should be thoughtful changes not made in the heat of the fiscal cliff. >> can you defer medicare for example -- medicare reform until after you get a deal on the fiscal cliff? >> well, if we do that, wolf, i think what you have to do is also defer the issue of taxes. i think you extend tax rates some time into the foreseeable future whether that's six months or a year and allow us to go through the process where we can deal with entitlement reform and tax reform in regular order. i don't see republicans supporting something up here that deals with taxes that doesn't have entitlement reform incorporated into that. so i think right now we're a little bit of a standoff, but the way to solve this would be of course to extend the existing tax rates which is by the way something
on capitol hill tonight, thank you for being with us. >> senator dick durbin will talk about efforts in the senate to resolve the fiscal cliff. it we will bring you his speech live starting at 11:30 a.m. eastern on c-span. in an interview today, eric kanter with the deficit reduction plan because they were elected to congress to fix problems. we will hear from republican leaders talking to reporters on the debt ceiling agreement to votvote. >> good afternoon, everyone. in january, our first week that we were sworn into office, the president asked for an increase in the debt ceiling and i made clear at that time that there would be no increase without significant cuts of spending and changes of the way that we spend the american people's money. shortly after that, i was in new york and outline that i thought the spending cuts should exceed the amount of the debt limit increase and there should be no taxes as part of this agreement. when you look at what we have been able to achieve, we met those standards that have been outlined. it is time for america to deal with its spending proble
of the discussion? >> i haven't seen those comments from senator durbin but it is the case that there are two distinct issue here's that are related which is the fiscal cliff, the deadlines essentially that we have in place, if action isn't taken will result in significant tax hikes on the one hand and across the board spending cuts on the other. that's the fiscal cliff. the other challenge is one that we've been dealing with for a long time now, the need to come to an agreement on a broad, balanced and comprehensive plan to reduce our deficits and debt and put us on a sustainable path economically in a way that protects the middle class, protects seniors and other vulnerable americans and continues to invest in our economy so it can grow and create jobs. the president's belief is that we can address both of these in a broad receive -- deficit reduction package but there's no question that we are -- that they are in many ways distinct. that's why when we talk about an immediate action a distinct, discreet action that congress could take if republicans in the house of representatives would agr
for that in these negotiations that take place. >> senator durbin said he thinks that president obama won't include a deal - [inaudible] >> first of all, the debt ceiling. we would be foolish to work out something on stopping this from going over the cliff and then a month or six months later the republicans pull the same game as they did before and say we aren't going to agree to increasing the debt ceiling. i agree with the president. it has to be a package deal. what was your other question? [inaudible question] >> there are things we have already taken care of, the first of april and take a look at that stuff. that's not essential. [inaudible question] >> we can't do anything with the disaster aid package and i'm told it will be tomorrow or the next day. [inaudible question] >> republican, ok. you said what's holding it up? i said republicans. talk to the republicans. it's up to them. [inaudible question] >> i have said on a number of occasions the internet poker bill can move forward if we get 15, 17 republican votes. this stage, we have gotten none. >> you talked to the president over the weekend.
thing. but illinois democratic senator dick durbin doesn't want to touch social security. he thinks the new revenue should come from an increase on the tax rates of top earners, which is currently 35%. >> let the rates go up to 39. let us also take a look at the deductions. let's make sure that revenue is an integral part of deficit reduction. from my side of the table, bring entitlement reform into the conversation. social security, set aside, doesn't add to the deficit. when it comes to medicare and medicaid, protect the integrity of the program, but give it solvency for more and more years. >> reporter: a source with engine of knowledge -- with knowledge of the negotiation says there is no date set in stone for the next meeting among the principle negotiate othe timing will depend on the progress of staff member, in the next few days. but we should not be surprised if they get together, sthiem week. shannon. >> shannon: we wish them much luck. thank you. our worst-case scenario, there isn't a deal. the former economics director it'll peter tracy, tells what did you say to expect
of the aisle. as we did under bowles-simpson put everything on the table. >> reporter: senator durbin, a top democrat in the senate says put everything on the table. though owe went on he is concerned about changes in medicare that might set off gaps in coverage, senior citizens not getting health care coverage. there you go. they're saying to put everything on the table but when you get in the details that's why they haven't come to a deal because the devil will be in the details, jenna. jenna: maybe they start with a salute and end with a handshake. ed, great to see you report great to see you. jenna: thank you very much. jon: several republican lawmakers are toning down their criticism of u.n. ambassador susan rice and her handling of the deadly attack on the consulate in libya. ambassador rice was under fire for appearances on the television immediately after the attack where she blamed it on the youtube video. many vocal critics, like senator john mccain are turning up the heat on president obama and the state department. >> the problem is the president of the united states in a debate
. and the numbers are staggering. as dick durbin pointed out recently when lyndon johnson was majority leader of the senate democratic majority leader of the senate. for six years, there was one filibuster. one filibuster. the last six years under republican leadership, there have been 380 filibusters in the senate. they filibuster everything including -- one of the most outrageous examples, republicans in the senate filibustered the james -- september 11th health and compensation act which would have provided healthcare for the heroes the first responders of september 11th. republicans filibustered that and prevented it from coming to a vote in the senate. so it doesn't matter good or bad if the democrat was for it, republicans filibustered it. and they did so by -- it was sort of like a -- a virtual filibuster. it is no longer the day when they bring in the cots and they make them actually speak. they just threaten to filibuster and that's all they have to do and it is just as effective and -- effectively blocks a measure at al
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